Caleb Ayrania
Gallente
TarNec
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Posted - 2009.03.19 09:36:00 -
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Best solution to all this endless discussion about micro bidding and backmarket orders buying items at extremely low prices is all pointing toward the solution and beef I have had with the amount of orders by skill for years.
Let me explain the last part first. To many items are in the game to effectively cover every item, this might seem like a good thing to open up opertune markets for the traders, but if effect the missing fairness in price and abusive nature breeds mistrust in prices where there is low volume activities. Ok a small solution to this would ofc be checking outgame tools like eve metrics for historic prices and jita avg, but if you selling big piles of loot or simply wont bother using outgame tools, well your going to suffer from this missing saturation of fairpricing.
The more orders the wider traders could spread their activities and thus even with small escrows increase the prices to a more real level. They would never remove the margin of real earning because if say I place a back order in region quite far from my operation my pricetag will be low to reflect the time I need to wait and spend working the item. It would however never be a griefers 1 isk for a 2500 isk commodety.
Ok how does more orders help in micro bidding?
Well one way is that it dont remove it, but it makes it possible for traders to split stacks and thus mess up the field a bit. This way you would basically split your stacks according to your resulting "threshold" and the microbidder would have to do the same on all stack sizes, or place his orders either in front loosing his margin or inbetween sacrificing a part of the market to the original seller or buyer. A small example but without to deep details.
Where would you microbid a sell in this scenario
Same seller spilts his TRT selling as follows.
1.000.000 Units sold at 4.5
500.000 Units sold at 4.2
250.000 Units sold at 3.9
See in that market (and even more with more traders) the micro bidder is in a conundrum, because his sacrifice ends up to high if he wants the entire market, sure he can then split the same way and micro match all prices, but this have increased his burden, and thus makes his strategy a bit impaired, while still not taking it away in practice.
My personal view is that broker price should be removed on 3 month contracts, and you should not be able to modify daytrade/fast orders. Modification should be volume and price, and should cost less than daytrade orders.
In thread a a daytrader said this microbidding reflects real life trade, that is not entirely true because there are a few different types of trade time wise and price wise, and when you place an order w the broker he stacks them and trades in larger volumes, and he will never slow trade on the floor by microbidding, thats not at all how things work.. No one on the floor would over bid or underbid with such lame increments. The microbids could and would only exist in pretrade w the broker.
So in conclusion. To reflect a better system add more skill levels and more trader specialized skills. To the profession trader in EVE the skills should mean as much as range wise as gunnery skills, and this is not elitist because you survive entry into trader pvp, you dont in combat pvp.
My 2 isk..
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